actually higher possibility denjirou is that guy from ch 550 , the bald guy who react to marineford and WB , he use same glasses , same braclet and almost the same familiar face
Kinemon mentioned an older brother when he was being scolded by O-Tsuru. Given how Tsuru acknowledged his existence, it’s not like Kinemon was making up a sob story to gain sympathy. I’m thinking his older brother is Kyoshiro. Kyoshiro has light hair, just like Kinemon did in his younger years. The “classic Japanese style faces” seem to be caused by aging, so Kyoshiro in present time should realistically be around the same age as Tsuru (meaning he was born around the same time as Kinemon). He’s uber tall like Kinemon (though a lot of Wano people are too). Just a random thought after reading the chapter.
In one “Japanese mythology” story, a big white boar is presented as one of the forms taken by the god of Mt. Ibuki in Shiga prefecture. This god who take the shape of a white boar is also call “The Moutain God” like in the chapter. Maybe, Oda take some inspiration from that .. ^^ Little fun fact, This is also one of the inspirations for the creation of Okkotonushi who appears in Princess Mononoke.
No one remembered the giant boar that brought all other boars because humans had killed a young strong boar, from the movie princess mononoke? And the hercules link was quite interesting… how hercules died?
I mean isn’t it literally impossible for Koushirou to be Denjiro since we know he was born in the East blue? Also Koushirou would only be 10 years old at this point in time and while it may be debatable I think Denjiro is older than that in the chapter.
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could Sukiyaki’s advisor be a younger Fukurokuju ? Besides the It was said that he changed his allegiance to Orochi.
I would add one piece – had to say it – to the Herakles / Oden parallelism. As part of his labors, Herakles had to slay the Lernean hydra. Hydra, Yamata no Orochi anyone ? 😀
I think Denjirou and Koushirou are twins/ cousins or something. Got separated som dacades ago. Just like those SIMILARE carpenters Oda spoke of in the SBS. Denjirous backstory is revealed through SBS.
According to Koushirou’s viver car, his age now is 52, so at in chapter 960 flashback he was 11 (age 52- flashback 41). Kinmon in this flashack age is 15, now his age supposed to be 56 (36+20 year time travel). This confirms Koushirouis is younger than Kinmon and around the same age of the kid Denjuro.
Though, the opening messed up everything!! Supposing Kyoshiro is Denjuro, he should be around the same age of Koushirou. May be they are relative or something like that..
At this point i can only speculate that Denjiro is Koshiro’s brother. I don’t think that the statement “orphan” in Denjiro’s introduction note is random. Lets guess that Kouzaburou is the father of these two, he left around 50 years ago with only one of them (Koshiro, while still was baby) and left his other son behind (maybe with his mother at that moment?) Later Denjiro being and orphan was given his name (Denjiro). Later he chose his family name (Kyoshiro) and changed his appearance (to trick Orochi?)
For the sword, i do not think that it’s the Wado Ichimonji, nor a second crafted such as something like “Nimonji”. A possible scenario i can think of is that it’s a fake, an imitation of the original sword. We see him trying to scam others, so he could do so with his sword for many reasons.
At the end, it’s Oda. The best thing he does is surprising us.
actually higher possibility denjirou is that guy from ch 550 , the bald guy who react to marineford and WB , he use same glasses , same braclet and almost the same familiar face
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Thanks Arthur. Always looking forward to Chapter Secrets. Thanks man!
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Worth noting Kin had to steal clothes so he probably doesn’t have his DF yet.
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Very good point, hadn’t thought about that! That’s definitely Oda subtly confirming that
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Denjiro looks like scooper gaban from roger’s crews, also this is the first time kinemon and denjiro met oden
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Kinemon mentioned an older brother when he was being scolded by O-Tsuru. Given how Tsuru acknowledged his existence, it’s not like Kinemon was making up a sob story to gain sympathy. I’m thinking his older brother is Kyoshiro. Kyoshiro has light hair, just like Kinemon did in his younger years. The “classic Japanese style faces” seem to be caused by aging, so Kyoshiro in present time should realistically be around the same age as Tsuru (meaning he was born around the same time as Kinemon). He’s uber tall like Kinemon (though a lot of Wano people are too). Just a random thought after reading the chapter.
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Another Hercules parallel. His 5th labour involved diverting a river to clean the Augeab stables. Like Oden diverted a river in the past.
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In one “Japanese mythology” story, a big white boar is presented as one of the forms taken by the god of Mt. Ibuki in Shiga prefecture. This god who take the shape of a white boar is also call “The Moutain God” like in the chapter. Maybe, Oda take some inspiration from that .. ^^ Little fun fact, This is also one of the inspirations for the creation of Okkotonushi who appears in Princess Mononoke.
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No one remembered the giant boar that brought all other boars because humans had killed a young strong boar, from the movie princess mononoke? And the hercules link was quite interesting… how hercules died?
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Killed by poisonous centaur blood on a ceremonial robe given by a scorned lover.
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I mean isn’t it literally impossible for Koushirou to be Denjiro since we know he was born in the East blue? Also Koushirou would only be 10 years old at this point in time and while it may be debatable I think Denjiro is older than that in the chapter.
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Hello,
could Sukiyaki’s advisor be a younger Fukurokuju ? Besides the It was said that he changed his allegiance to Orochi.
I would add one piece – had to say it – to the Herakles / Oden parallelism. As part of his labors, Herakles had to slay the Lernean hydra. Hydra, Yamata no Orochi anyone ? 😀
Oda is truly masterful.
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I think Denjirou and Koushirou are twins/ cousins or something. Got separated som dacades ago. Just like those SIMILARE carpenters Oda spoke of in the SBS. Denjirous backstory is revealed through SBS.
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According to Koushirou’s viver car, his age now is 52, so at in chapter 960 flashback he was 11 (age 52- flashback 41). Kinmon in this flashack age is 15, now his age supposed to be 56 (36+20 year time travel). This confirms Koushirouis is younger than Kinmon and around the same age of the kid Denjuro.
Though, the opening messed up everything!! Supposing Kyoshiro is Denjuro, he should be around the same age of Koushirou. May be they are relative or something like that..
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At this point i can only speculate that Denjiro is Koshiro’s brother. I don’t think that the statement “orphan” in Denjiro’s introduction note is random. Lets guess that Kouzaburou is the father of these two, he left around 50 years ago with only one of them (Koshiro, while still was baby) and left his other son behind (maybe with his mother at that moment?) Later Denjiro being and orphan was given his name (Denjiro). Later he chose his family name (Kyoshiro) and changed his appearance (to trick Orochi?)
For the sword, i do not think that it’s the Wado Ichimonji, nor a second crafted such as something like “Nimonji”. A possible scenario i can think of is that it’s a fake, an imitation of the original sword. We see him trying to scam others, so he could do so with his sword for many reasons.
At the end, it’s Oda. The best thing he does is surprising us.
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i think same boars were used for carrying sleeping Big Mom in chapter 947
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Hmm… The Sukiyaki subordinate you pointed out, the one with the black hair kinda looks like one of the Oniwabanshu…
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Heh, thanks for mentioned similarity to Heracles’s story now I’m considering Orochi as that stupid and coward king Eurystheus…
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